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New Reuters Video focuses on effects of Mountaintop Removal in Kentucky

The red-stained water seen below this

Appalachian Voices traveled to eastern Kentucky to show Reuters the impact of mountaintop removal.Kentuckians for the Commonwealth, a partner organization, helped to coordinate the trip.

The video focuses on the impacts of mountaintop removal in eastern Kentucky and the great strides Google Earth has made in communicating the scale of the devastation it is causing.

“What Google Earth allows you to do is to show this is millions of acres,” said Matt Wasson referring to how important a tool Google Earth is in showing the bird’s eye view of the immense destruction spreading across the Appalachian Mountains.

Rick Handshoe, resident of Floyd County Kentucky and member of Kentuckians for the Commonwealth shares Wasson’s concern.

In the video he vividly describes the pollution that mountaintop removal mining has caused in streams while the camera pans slowly across the creeks gurgling brown down the hillside. The land has been in his family for nearly 200 years.

Dr. Matthew Wasson, an ecologist and the director of programs for Appalachian Voices, also took some still shots of mountaintop removal and valley fills while there.

They’re Still Blowing Up Our Mountains and There Still Oughtta Be a Law!

A month ago, before the nation’s attention was drawn to the tragedies at the Upper Big Branch Mine in West Virginia and the oil rig off the Louisiana coast, the EPA issued a blockbuster announcement about a strict new guidance for the permitting of mountaintop removal mines in Appalachia. The announcement left many people - reporters, politicians and the general public alike - confused whether or not the EPA had just put an end to mountaintop removal. The announcement generated headlines ranging from a fairly modest “E.P.A. to Limit Water Pollution From Mining” in the New York Times to “New regulations will put an end to mountaintop mining?” in the Guardian.

Certainly at the press conference EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson used some strong language:

“Coal communities should not have to sacrifice their environment or their health or their economic future to mountaintop mining. They deserve the full protection of our clean water laws.”

Mountaintop Removal Mine Site above Route 23 in Pike County, KentuckyOn a recent trip through eastern Kentucky, set up by our good friends at Kentuckians for the Commonwealth, the answer to whether mountaintop removal in Appalachia has come to an end was abundantly obvious.

The photo to the right of a new active mountaintop removal mine looming above Route 23 in Pike County, Kentucky, tells the story.

(All photos in this post were taken on April 18th in Kentucky: Here’s a link a flickr photo set from that trip)

To the extent that some in the media overstated the impact of EPA’s new guidance, they can be forgiven. During the press conference, Jackson herself said, “You’re talking about no or very few valley fills that are going to meet standards like this.”

Valley fills are the typical disposal sites for the waste that is generated when coal companies blow the tops off mountains to access thin seams of coal. As community activist Judy Bonds of the organization Coal River Mountain Watch describes it, “A valley fill is an upside down mountain turned inside out.” Most - but not all - mountaintop removal mines require valley fills.

But Jackson was also very clear that this was not a blanket ban on mountaintop removal permitting and that the guidance would not apply to permits that had already been granted. The standards Jackson said would lead to “no or very few valley fills” establish limits on the permissible level of stream water conductivity. Conductivity is a measure of salt - and an indicator of metals including toxic and heavy metals - in water. Remember the experiment where you put salt in a glass of water to make it conduct electricity and light a bulb?

Toxic Runoff from a Valley Fill in Eastern KentuckyA plethora of recent scientific research has shown that conductivity higher than about five times the normal level downstream from valley fills is associated with severe impairment of the ecological communities in Appalachian headwater streams. The photo to the right that I took below a valley fill in Magoffin County, Kentucky, illustrates the trouble these standards create for coal companies. According to a huge compilation of scientific studies that the EPA simultaneously released with their guidance, conductivity levels below Appalachian valley fills average around 10 times normal levels. The bright orange water coming out of this valley fill indicates enormously high levels of iron, which in turn suggests both high conductivity levels and high levels of toxic and heavy metals regulated under the Clean Water Act.

To be sure, EPA’s move is a big first step that provides immediate protection to Appalachian families threatened with new mountaintop removal permits above their homes. It’s a tourniquet that will stop the hemorrhaging, but here are five reasons why this guidance doesn’t immediately or permanently put an end to mountaintop removal:

  1. EPA’s action will not affect permits that have already been issued. Moreover, an excellent piece of reporting by Charleston Gazette reporter Ken Ward revealed that those existing permits will allow some companies to continue mountaintop removal operations without a hitch for the next couple of years.
  2. Not all mountaintop removal mines require valley fills and coal companies are already using loopholes by which they can obliterate miles of streams without the need to obtain a valley fill permit. The million or so acres of wholesale destruction that coal companies drove through a narrow loophole in the Surface Mine Control and Reclamation Act since 1977 is testament to their skill and creativity at exploiting loopholes.
  3. Some valley fills will still be allowed under this guidance and the EPA even provided a set of “best practices” by which companies have already proven they can be successful in profitably operating Appalachian surface mines in a manner consistent with the new guidance. Moreover, there are a number of recent cases where coal companies went ahead and constructed valley fills without even bothering to obtain a permit.
  4. While the guidance takes effect immediately, it is a preliminary document released in response to calls from coal state legislators and coal companies for greater clarity on how EPA was basing it’s decision whether to grant a valley fill permit for an Appalachian surface mine. The EPA plans to initiate an extended public comment period before the guidelines will be finalized.
  5. An agency guidance document is different from a formal rule and can be easily overturned by a new administration. Even if this guidance proves to be effective in curtailing mountaintop removal, environmental and community advocates still need to ask what happens when a hypothetical President Palin enters the White House in January of 2013 or 2017.

There are any number of laws and regulations that affect surface mining, and so there is no single mechanism to ensure mountaintop removal is stopped permanently. But the first and most important step is for Congress to pass a strong law that prohibits the dumping of mine waste into streams.

In 2002, Representative Frank Pallone of New Jersey introduced just such a law called the Clean Water Protection Act (H.R. 1310). Pallone, together with Republican Cristopher Shays, introduced this bipartisan bill in response to the Bush Administration’s catastrophic “fill rule,” which made it easier to permit mountaintop removal mining and for coal companies anywhere to dump waste into streams. Since then, people and organizations across Appalachia have supported Pallone’s bill by carrying a simple message to universities, church groups and Rotary Clubs across America: they’re blowing up our mountains and there oughtta be a law!

Over the past eight years, the nationwide organizing efforts led by groups in Appalachia have generated a remarkable 170 co-sponsors of the Clean Water Protection Act - more than almost any other bill before Congress. Unfortunately, the bill continues to be held up in the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee, with West Virginia Congressman Nick Rahall recently claiming credit in a West Virginia newspaper for bottling it up.

If Rahall’s contention is true, it’s a powerful testament to the level of influence he has accumulated, given that the bill has more cosponsors than any other of the 323 bills currently before the Transportation and Infrastructure Committee. More importantly, Rahall does not actually have the power to prevent the bill from being heard except through his influence over Chairman James Oberstar of Minnesota, who is the only one with the actual power to decide whether the bill is brought up in his committee.

It’s particularly unfortunate that House Democratic leaders and committee chairs like Oberstar would give Rahall so much power over national policy, given how poorly his own constituents have fared under his leadership. After 33 years in office, Rahall’s district ranked 434th out of all 435 Congressional districts in Gallup’s recently-released 2009 well-being index rankings (see map below).

WellBeing_2009Rankings

The only district that ranked lower was Hal Roger’s neighboring district in eastern Kentucky. Notably, Rogers’ is the only district that has suffered more destruction from mountaintop removal mining than Rahall’s.

A big question in the wake of the tragedy at Massey Energy’s Upper Big Branch mine is whether the obescience of coal state legislators toward the coal industry will change after the disaster. Traditionally, the pandering of Congressman Rahall and Senator Rockefeller toward Big Coal has been almost embarrassing to watch - kind of like witnessing an overly-exuberant public display of affection on a park bench. But when it comes to the safety of the guys in the hardhats, these gentlemen strike a very different tune.

Given that the same company, Massey Energy, is by far the largest operator of mountaintop removal mines, was assessed the largest penalty in the history of the Clean Water Act, and has a record of environmental violations to which their horrible safety record pales in comparison, these legislators have a unique opportunity to lead their constituents in a new direction. And Senator Byrd of West Virginia has paved the way.

One of the most under-reported elements of EPA’s announcement was that Administrator Jackson specifically mentioned the EPA had worked with Senator Byrd to develop their new guidelines. She would not have said that without explicit approval from Senator Byrd. While Byrd has not explicitly called for an end to mountaintop removal or co-sponsored legislation to do that, his leadership in promoting a more thoughtful and reasonable view on climate and the future of coal in his state represents a sea change from the public statements of statewide elected officials over the past few decades. Rahall and Rockefeller would serve their constituents and their country far better if they followed Byrd’s lead.

Is Passing a Law in this Polarized Congress Realistic?

More important than the enormous number of cosponsors that legislation to stop mountaintop removal enjoys is the fact that the support is bipartisan. Immediately following the EPA’s announcement, Senator Lamar Alexander, Republican of Tennessee, said in a press release:

“The new EPA guidelines are useful in stopping some inappropriate coal mining in Appalachia but Congress still needs to pass the Cardin-Alexander legislation that would effectively end mountaintop removal mining.”

Alexander, together with Senator Ben Cardin of Maryland, introduced the Appalachia Restoration Act (S. 696) last year, a Senate companion to the Clean Water Protection Act designed to eliminate mountaintop removal (or at least permanently curtail it - we’ll see what the final language says after mark-up). That bill got a boost the same week of the EPA announcement when coal-state Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio announced he would become the 11th co-sponsor of the bill.

Whether the Senate bill can survive the committee mark-up process in a form that Appalachian citizens groups can support remains to be seen, however. The Nashville Tennessean recently published an editorial that gave voice to the concerns many coalfield citizens have about forms of mining that may not be covered by the Senate bill, particularly cross-ridge mining. Cross-ridge is a type of mountaintop removal mining that requires little or no valley fill and is based on the assumption that a mountain can be put back more or less how it was after it’s been blown up - kind of like putting Humpty Dumpty back together again.

Runoff from a "Reclaimed" Mountaintop Removal mine in KentuckyThe photo to the right illustrates one of many problems with the theory that mountains can be put back together without causing major ecological degradation. While the type of mining shown in the photo would not be classified by state agencies as mountaintop removal (only part of the ridgeline has been removed and there is no valley fill at the headwaters of this stream), the impact of this mining on water quality is indistinguishable from the impact shown in the previous photo below a valley fill.

Some insiders have also expressed concern that EPA’s strict new guidance will take the wind out the sails of the campaign to pass a law, but from the perspective of Appalachian groups that have been working to ban mountaintop removal for decades, that concern is misplaced. The citizens of Appalachia have led this fight from the beginning, and have a much more vested interest in making these protections permanent than any group in Washington DC.

It may be that some big environmental groups that have only recently made mountaintop removal a priority will move on to other priorities once the Administrative decisions are played out - and make no mistake that the contributions of those groups over the past few years in pressuring the Obama Administration to take action were exceedingly welcome and timely. But it was not the Big Greens that made mountaintop removal a national issue or whose organizing in communities across America has generated such broad bipartisan support of the Clean Water Protection Act and Appalachia Restoration Act.

The people of Appalachia aren’t sitting around waiting for beltway insiders to tell them whether or how to pass a law, they’re just doing it. The legislative effort is led by the Alliance for Appalachia, an alliance of thirteen local and regional organizations that formed several years ago with the mission of ending mountaintop removal and bringing a prosperous new economy to the Appalachian coalfields that is based on sustainable industries.

It’s the Alliance for Appalachia that represents by far the greatest number of people impacted by mountaintop removal mining, and the alliance is composed of some organizations that have been fighting Appalachian strip mining for decades. The battle to end mountaintop removal will not be over until the Alliance for Appalachia says it is and I’m confident that that won’t happen until, at a minimum, President Obama signs a law banning the practice.

So What’s Next?

There is a window of opportunity right now to pass a strong law that will rein in mountaintop removal permanently. Also, with coal demand down dramatically due to the recession, now is the time to begin replacing demand for mountaintop removal coal with aggressive energy efficiency and renewable energy policies in states like North Carolina, Georgia and Virginia that are most dependent on this source of coal.

From a local perspective, more delays, half-measures and uncertainty about the future of mountaintop removal will only lead to a myopic approach to rebuilding the Appalachian economy and bringing new jobs and new industries to the region.

And from a global perspective, at a time when America is finally getting serious about addressing climate change and moving toward a 21st century energy future built around renewable energy, isn’t it absurd that we’re still fighting to stop the wholesale destruction of the most biologically diverse forests and streams on the continent in order to mine climate-destroying coal? Can we really address climate change if we can’t even stop mountaintop removal?

For people around the country that want to see mountaintop removal end - and that should be anyone concerned about climate change, human rights or endangered species - a great place to start is by telling your Senators and Representatives that the time to pass legislation to end mountaintop removal is now. There are plenty of tools on the web to make it easy.

Let’s keep up the momentum, pass a strong law, and relegate mountaintop removal to its rightful place as just another tragic episode in American history books.

President Obama Answers Rep. Capito’s question on WV Coal Jobs

Today, President Obama took questions from the House Republican Caucus, including one from Congresswoman Shelly Moore Capito (WV-02) about coal jobs in West Virginia. The exchange begins around minute 19.

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Unofficial Transcript:

CONGRESSWOMAN CAPITO: Thank you, Mr. President, for joining us here today. As you said in the State of the Union address on Wednesday, jobs and the economy are number one. And I think everyone in this room, certainly I, agree with you on that.

I represent the state of West Virginia. We’re resource-rich. We have a lot of coal and a lot of natural gas. But our — my miners and the folks who are working and those who are unemployed are very concerned about some of your policies in these areas: cap and trade, an aggressive EPA, and the looming prospect of higher taxes. In our minds, these are job-killing policies. So I’m asking you if you would be willing to re-look at some of these policies, with a high unemployment and the unsure economy that we have now, to assure West Virginians that you’re listening.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Look, I listen all the time, including to your governor, who’s somebody who I enjoyed working with a lot before the campaign and now that I’m President. And I know that West Virginia struggles with unemployment, and I know how important coal is to West Virginia and a lot of the natural resources there. That’s part of the reason why I’ve said that we need a comprehensive energy policy that sets us up for a long-term future.

For example, nobody has been a bigger promoter of clean coal technology than I am. Testament to that, I ended up being in a whole bunch of advertisements that you guys saw all the time about investing in ways for us to burn coal more cleanly.

I’ve said that I’m a promoter of nuclear energy, something that I think over the last three decades has been subject to a lot of partisan wrangling and ideological wrangling. I don’t think it makes sense. I think that that has to be part of our energy mix. I’ve said that I am supportive — and I said this two nights ago at the State of the Union — that I am in favor of increased production.

So if you look at the ideas that this caucus has, again with respect to energy, I’m for a lot of what you said you are for.

The one thing that I’ve also said, though, and here we have a serious disagreement and my hope is we can work through these disagreements — there’s going to be an effort on the Senate side to do so on a bipartisan basis — is that we have to plan for the future.

And the future is that clean energy — cleaner forms of energy are going to be increasingly important, because even if folks are still skeptical in some cases about climate change in our politics and in Congress, the world is not skeptical about it. If we’re going to be after some of these big markets, they’re going to be looking to see, is the United States the one that’s developing clean coal technology? Is the United States developing our natural gas resources in the most effective way? Is the United States the one that is going to lead in electric cars? Because if we’re not leading, those other countries are going to be leading.

So what I want to do is work with West Virginia to figure out how we can seize that future. But to do that, that means there’s going to have to be some transition. We can’t operate the coal industry in the United States as if we’re still in the 1920s or the 1930s or the 1950s. We’ve got to be thinking what does that industry look like in the next hundred years. And it’s going to be different. And that means there’s going to be some transition. And that’s where I think a well-thought-through policy of incentivizing the new while recognizing that there’s going to be a transition process — and we’re not just suddenly putting the old out of business right away — that has to be something that both Republicans and Democrats should be able to embrace.

EPA Signs off on Hobert 45 Permit

The EPA signed off on a Clean Water Act permit releasing Patriot
Coal’s Hobet 45 mountaintop removal mine operation permit, one of 79 withheld for further review due to environmental concerns, to the Army Corps of Engineers for approval.

The addition to the Hobet complex, which already spans tens of
thousands of acres of contiguous mining will obliterate three more
miles of already impaired streams by simply “mining through” them.
These headwaters are within the watershed of the Mud River system, which is already on the brink of a major toxic event due to Selenium discharges at other parts of the Hobet complex. The original plans would have buried six miles of streams.

According to the EPA, Patriot Coal will still be able to mine 91 percent of the coal they were originally planning to produce, even
without any new valley fills.

Mountaintop removal has shown to be a disaster for the communities, economy, and ecology of Appalachia. Mountaintop removal has buried and polluted nearly 2,000 miles of headwaters streams in Appalachia and contaminated them with toxic heavy metals and chemicals.

“We, the affected citizens that are living with the impacts of this destructive mining practice, pray that this decision is not a preview of other destructive mining permits being approved,” said Judy Bonds with Coal River Mountain Watch. “We certainly hope this is the last destructive permit approved that will allow the coal industry to continue to blast our homes and pollute our streams.”

To find out more read “Hobet deal cuts stream impacts, preserves jobs” by Ken Ward Jr or listen to The Diane Rehm Show’s discussion on the topic.

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Interview with John Adams

John Adams has been mining coal in southwest Virginia for almost 40 years. I met him in the hallway outside the auditorium where the Big Stone Gap hearing was being held. He wore an ‘I Love Mountains’ pin proudly fastened next to the ‘Friends of Coal’ logo on the black t-shirt he wore over his orange miner’s stripes. After the angry altercations at the Charleston hearing, I was apprehensive, but Adams’ friendly, lined face reminded me of a favorite uncle; he seemed approachable and kind and I asked if we could talk for a few minutes. “What, you wanna talk to a dirty ol’ strip miner?” Totally thrown, I stumbled a bit. “Nah, I’m just teasing ya treehugger,” he said, “We’re all friends here, and if I got a problem with my friend, I’m gonna sit down and talk to him about it. What do you wanna know?”

Mr. Adams firmly believes that mountain top removal doesn’t harm the environment. “Environmental development, that’s what were doing,” he said. “The hills around here are so steep, your options are either to strip and level, or build out a place at a huge construction cost.” To him, the land leveled by mountain top removal offers significant opportunity for economic development. As we’re talking about this, he stops another Friend of Coal leaving the hospitality room. “Hey, tell this reporter about those subdivisions! High dollar, ain’t they? For doctors and lawyers, rich folks, right?” His friend nodded, “Oh yeah, definitely nice places up there. Reclaimed that site, you should look at that one. Wild turkeys and deer all around, too.” Adams says “that’s the problem, right there. You only bring people up here and show ‘em the worst part of the worst mine they got. You don’t show ‘em where we’ve turned the site into something good.”

If he hadn’t been turned into a miner, Mr. Adams said he would have been a paleontologist. His prized possession is a T-Rex claw found in Montana. He speaks of it in a big-fish-story kind of way, describing its curve and gleam and throwing in a few little-known facts about the awesome dinosaur. But, with what he calls a “barely high school” education, paleontology eluded him and mining kind of absorbed him; his family had done it, and with little alternate options, he fell into it as well. “Sure we should have diversified our economy,” he said, “but why didn’t we think of that 40 years ago?” Now it is how it is, and there are scant alternate options to turn to. Mr. Adams took his pay stub out of the pocket of his blue coveralls and ripped off the perforated edges. “I’ll show you this, and you can write this down.” The year-to-date total of his salary is $68, 307.13, and is flanked by a respectable 401-k and 12 remaining vacation days. “You tell me one other place around here I can make that. Economically depressed? Maybe, but its the coal that’s keepin’ us going. When you’re getting everything in the world taken away from you, like we feel, you’re gonna get angry. Without something to drive our economy, our economy don’t run.”

I ask what he will do when the coal runs out, when there is nothing left to mine. “Everything is finite,” he says, “but if its gonna run out anyway, why not just go ahead and get it all?” He sees the government’s attempt to regulate mining as simply an attack on personal rights, and says “Mr. Obama wants to take everything away from us.” We talk a bit more and head off in separate directions. Registration is starting for those who want to speak at the hearing, and he wants to get in line. He gives me a one-track CD called “Hey Tree Hugger” and tells me with a genuine smile and squeeze of the shoulder that I should give it a sharp listen. He points out a young miner named Doug and tells me he’s a gentlemen, single, and got twenty head of horses and a nice little farm, and that I should definitely introduce myself to him. Later on, right before the hearing starts, I’m standing outside the backdoor right past the “Tree Hugger’ hospitality room. Adams come out with his coat slung over his arm and a bowl of chili and cornbread. “Leaving before the party starts?” I ask. “That’s what happens when you’re a papaw; somebody always needs you.” He throws me a wink and gestures to his bowl: “We got better sodas in our room, but your side definitely has better chili.”



Call-in Script Previews

Before you click the “Call Now” link on the call-in tool, click one of the following links or scroll through all the scripts below to get a feel for what you might say.

For a Representative SUPPORTS the Clean Water Protection Act (HR 1310)

“I am calling to thank Representative _____ for co-sponsoring HR 1310, The Clean Water Protection Act.

“Please let (him or her) I am glad to hear that Representative _____ is in favor of protecting the water and communities of Appalachia.

“In addition to leaving this message of thanks, I also want to ask Representative _____ to take further action to ensure the Clean Water Protection Act passes in the House this year.

“Please ask Representative _____ to encourage other Representatives from our area to sign on as co-sponsors of the bill.

“I also ask that Representative _____ encourage Chairman Oberstar to make sure this bill passes through the Transportation and Infrastructure committee.

“Thank you for your time. And, once again, thanks to Representative _____ for taking leadership and signing on to HR 1310.”

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For a Representative OPPOSES the Clean Water Protection Act (HR 1310)

“I have heard that Representative _______ is opposed to HR 1310, The Clean Water Protection Act, which would rein in mountaintop removal mining.

“Please let Representative___________ know that supporting mountaintop removal is not only wrong, but it puts Representative ______ on the wrong side of history. The American people, and most importantly the people of Appalachia, oppose mountaintop removal.

“I want to ask Representative ________ to protect the water and communities of Appalachia, and the water of all those downstream. Support the Clean Water Protection Act.”

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For a Representative whose position is UNKNOWN concerning the Clean Water Protection Act (HR 1310)

“I am calling to ask Representative ______ to help end the destruction of the water and communities of Appalachia, and the water of all those downstream, by becoming a co-sponsor of HR 1310, The Clean Water Protection Act.

“Mountaintop removal is an unnecessary method of coal extraction that blasts hundreds of feet of mountains with dangerous chemicals to get at very thin seams of coal. The debris from mountaintop removal is dumped into nearby streams and rivers. The Clean Water Protection Act would return the Clean Water Act to its original intent and would prohibit this mining ‘waste’ from being used as fill in these U.S. waterways.

“Already, more that 500 mountains and 1200 miles of streams have been destroyed in Appalachia. Please ask Representative ______ to sign on today as a co-sponsor of the Clean Water Protection Act to protect the region’s land and people.

“Contact Tim DelMonico in Representative Pallone’s office or Jason Edgar in Representative Reichert’s office to sign on to HR 1310.

“I thank you for your time.”

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Gob Piles in Southwest Virginia

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